Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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IanSav hat geschrieben: 04 Jan 2025 08:22
Your experience differs from the recent testing by Joerg and myself. Can you please provide a sample recording, with all the meta-data files so that we can run tests against a known problematic file.
Recording (Beyond Paradise/ABC) with associated files:

https://limewire.com/d/ba35f75d-77a6-4a ... Hur6jSM1PM

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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Hi Teddles,

I am sorry, but I can't fault subtitles on this recording either.

Given you are using a Beyonwiz V2 running the same version of OpenATV as am I this is worrying. At the moment the only significant difference is the hardware. I have tested the recordings on a Zgemma H7 and a GigaBlue UHD UE 4K. I have asked other team members with more hardware options to also run some tests.

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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You maybe have to allign the settings of the audio- and language-settings in the audio section of the image, and maybe, also in EMC the preferation of the tracks. So there might be at least three or four screens, where the behavoir of track fetching for playback can be different.

- The first is already in the video-setting of HDMI-out with for example 1080p-multi / 1080i-multi?
- The second is the audio-track itself, to get the track for global timebase.
- The third is the handling of audio (Downmix yes/no), which may be handled a little bit different for synching video and audio, and also some automatics for HDMI-response to the audio-features, if available.
- The fourth is in the global subtitle menu of the settings with some timing settings.
- The fifth is in the menu for automatic language selection with some settings for preferences of fetching the subtitle-track (different naming of tracks in the transportstream can lead to different detection, so these settings may be relevant).
- The sixth is in the EMC settings the chapter of language settings for subtitles.

So there are six places, that can influence the topic.
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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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Papi2000 hat geschrieben: 05 Jan 2025 17:41 You maybe have to allign the settings of the audio- and language-settings in the audio section of the image, and maybe, also in EMC the preferation of the tracks.
Thanks Ralf, I'll work through your suggestions as best as I can.

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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IanSav hat geschrieben: 05 Jan 2025 10:16 I am sorry, but I can't fault subtitles on this recording either.

Given you are using a Beyonwiz V2 running the same version of OpenATV as am I this is worrying. At the moment the only significant difference is the hardware.
Thanks Ian, a bit of a bummer heh! The settings to be looked at as per Ralf's post look somewhat daunting but I'll see how I go.

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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IanSav hat geschrieben: 05 Jan 2025 10:16 At the moment the only significant difference is the hardware. I have tested the recordings on a Zgemma H7 and a GigaBlue UHD UE 4K.
No V2 at your disposal, is that correct? It would be great if we could rule out gross 'user error' on my part :D

BTW I'm tinkering with settings referenced by Ralf with no success to date.

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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Hi Teddles,

@Captain has the box upon which the V2 is based. He will be having a look at the issue when he gets a moment free.

What media player are you using? I am testing with MovieSelection and NOT EMC.

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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IanSav hat geschrieben: 07 Jan 2025 11:41 @Captain has the box upon which the V2 is based. He will be having a look at the issue when he gets a moment free.
That's good to know
What media player are you using? I am testing with MovieSelection and NOT EMC.
Same here

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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IanSav hat geschrieben: 01 Jan 2025 08:27 Can I please have a list of receiver models that you are using. OpenATV 7.5.1 is now becoming available and my tests are showing that subtitles are working on this version. NOTE: I am talking about the production release firmware version 7.5.1 and NOT the test builds of 7.5!
U4. Unfortunately I don’t have the time at the moment to be reflashing and testing firmware, which is why I haven’t been replying for a while. And @Teddles experience with 7.5.1 doesn’t look promising :(

Hopefully I’ll get some more time in a week or two. In the meantime I’m still on BW firmware which has no issues with subtitles when playing back recorded programs.

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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Hi Guys,

Try as we might, so far we are unable to reproduce the issues you guys are reporting.

There are different types of receiver being used yet they seem to suffer the same issues. To me this is potentially ruling out hardware and driver issues.

A number of developers have been using the videos you have provided and we can't seem to force the failures.

I am wondering if you need to start from a fresh and clean install of the latest firmware with no extra plugins or settings changes and see if the problems persist. I am open to other suggestions.

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Re: Subtitles out of sync on recorded programs on ABC

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IanSav hat geschrieben: 11 Jan 2025 14:31 I am wondering if you need to start from a fresh and clean install of the latest firmware with no extra plugins or settings changes and see if the problems persist. I am open to other suggestions.
Thanks Ian. This is indeed a strange problem. I’ll try a clean install of 7.5.1 in maybe 2 weeks time … I’m not allowed to touch anything while the Australian Open is on :)

Ken.
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