Accessing SMB/Samba Network

[trekker42]

So I updated a T2 to OpenATV from Beyonwiz. All appeared to go well. A wiz V2 and wiz T4 would show it in their Network browser lists. It would show up in the OpenWebif on a laptop on the network. On the T2 it would not show in its own Network browser list. The B'wiz V2 and T4 do show in their own Network browser lists. The laptop on the network could create a share for the V2 and T4 but not the OpenATV T2. I spent far too much time trying to get the T2 networking working. Reloaded the T2 with Beyonwiz firmware. The T2 now appaers in its' Network browser list and the laptop can create a share for it. Any ideas? I would like to move them all to OpenATV.

Regards'
Tony

[IanSav]

Hi Tony,

Did you set a network password before trying the network access? OpenATV has a higher level of security than the Beyonwiz firmware. Use MENU > Setup > Network > Password Settings to set a password.

Regards,
Ian.

[trekker42]

Hi Ian,

Reloaded OpenATV placed passwords where required. Stll could not connect as a mapped network drive.
On a win11 pc and desk win10 pc the openATV T2 does not show. Both computers have SMBv1 enabled. The Beyonwiz T4 and V2 show ok, as well as other network items. The movie folder on each can be accessed and saved recordings played. When the T2 was loaded with beyonwiz firmware it also showed on the computers and could be accessed to play recordings. The beyonwiz firmware indicates it is using SMB2.1 .

It's not urgent to change to OpenATV so will go back to beyonwiz firmware for now. Will wait to find more documentation.

Thanks,
Tony

[IanSav]

Hi Tony,

When you want to try OpenATV again let us know and we can workshop the issue to find a solution.

For my machine I use a completely customised Samba config file to suit my development network. I have many mounts running in all directions without issue so I know this can all work.

Regards,
Ian.

[Papi2000]

Usually that helped a lot users:
https://www.opena.tv/viewtopic.php?t=55079

If you really need SMBv1 for some reasons, it could be enabled (for testing purposes only recommended) in the

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/etc/samba/smb-user.conf      #     do not use / change other config files for update reasons

There inject in the block (not the dots)

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[global]
...
   workgroup = Winkler
   disable netbios = No
# socket options = TCP_NODELAY
# server signing = Disabled
# server signing = Auto
# unix extensions = yes
# oplocks = yes
# kernel oplocks = yes
# min protocol = SMB2_02
# min protocol = SMB1
# client min protocol = SMB2_02
# smb ports = 445
   preferred master = No
...

With those parameters you can play arround a little.
With SMBv2 the boxes are seen in newtork neighborhood via WSD, with SMBv1 it was NetBIOS.
But that works only reliable, if a local storage device is mounted to /media/hdd at the box. Otherwise samba is a surprise box :-)

Der Dateianhang network neighborhood.png existiert nicht mehr.

[IanSav]

Hi Ralg,

Are you sure the group heading is "[General]" and not "[Global]"?

What I am finding is that using the default OpenATV Samba configuration the setting of the "workgroup" in "/etc/samba/distro/smb-global.conf" is NOT being overridden by the "workgroup" setting in "/etc/samba/smb-user.conf". If I correct the "workgroup" in the global file then everything appears to be working as expected.

When Tony comes back to trying this again we can get more information about what has been done to try and fix his issue.

Regards,
Ian.

[Papi2000]

Hi IanSav, you are right, well been attentive.
I corrected the heading in the code.
I sugest, never changing files in the distro folder, because thy may be changed back to image state after certain samba updates allways. That' anoing, and worling in / with the samba-user.conf did the right job here for long times.
After all changes in that file, I do a samba restart on console:

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/etc/init.d/samba restart

to publish the changes.

[IanSav]

Hi Ralf,

It seems there may be an issue in the OpenATV configuration files for Samba. @Jbleyel ran some tests and also found that the "workgroup" setting is not being taken from "smb-user.conf". The issue has been referred to @NickerSK for investigation.

Thank you for offering your knowledge to this issue. Once the workgroup issue is resolved I am confident that we can get Tony's machine working.

Regards,
Ian.

[trekker42]

Hi Ralf , Ian,
Thanks for the help. I see that I need to update myself with Win 11,10 networking. It will take a few (?) days. Will us the T2 as the test case as it is the spare.

Regards,
Tony

[IanSav]

Hi Tony,

Thanks for the help. I see that I need to update myself with Win 11,10 networking. It will take a few (?) days. Will us the T2 as the test case as it is the spare.

I am using networking with Windows XP and ReadyNAS boxes that use SMB1. A windows update is not required. You just need to tell OpenATV to use the appropriate SMB versions. In my case I added:

	server min protocol = NT1
	client min protocol = NT1

to my config file.

Regards,
Ian.

[Billyblue]

I have also just installed Open Atv onto a BW T2 - openatv-7.4-beyonwizt2-20240819 - and having blundered my way through the basic side of the set up, I've hit the wall trying to get networking up and running. I can see into the T2 from Windows, but no luck getting into my NAS boxes from the T2.

Is there a setup guide - in English? I can't see to find one.

Worse, things that sound like they could be close link to German language sites, but when I come back, the body of this site is also in German. Have to leave the site and come back in to get back to English.

[IanSav]

Hi BillyBlue,

What are the NAS boxes? Why version of Samba/SMB do they support?

I am not aware of any manuals. Perhaps others may have some suggestions.

When you are logged in and English is selected the forum pages will start off in the language used to write the post and then the AI agent should step in and translate the text to the selected language.

Regards,
Ian.

[Billyblue]

Hi Ian
Synology DS418 & DS420j. Both support SMB 1, 2 & 3, though currently set to Min 2, Max 3, There is another setting for 2 with large MTU that appears to sit in between 2 & 3.

- Dim memory of early BW firmware needing to be forced to SMB2 due to security concerns over SMB1? Am currently able to access both NAS boxes from my U4 & V2 (BW firmware) with the boxes set as above.

I'll take any how to's, cheat sheets, notes, suggestions, as opposed to a complete manual - though I can always dream!

As for the AI kicking in, certainly on initial display of a page, but if you link off that page and then "Back" to return it looks to me like the AI does not kick in again, so German is displayed.

Bill

[Papi2000]

OffTopic:
There are two settings for language in the forum. One is top right with the nice flag the popup-list. The second one is in your personal area the board preferences. First item in the board preferences language is "American English", second is "British English".

[IanSav]

Hi Bill,

Have you made any changes to the Samba/SMB configuration on OpenATV?

The default for OpenATV is: min protocol = SMB2_02

Here is some documentation on Samba configuration: Samba smb.conf documentation

I suggest you try the

	server min protocol = NT1
	client min protocol = NT1

settings and see what happens.

Regards,
Ian.

[Billyblue]

OffTopic:
There are two settings for language in the forum. One is top right with the nice flag the popup-list. The second one is in your personal area the board preferences. First item in the board preferences language is "American English", second is "British English".

Thanks Ralf,
I confirm that's what I've got in preferences, I do have to set the top right popup to English each time I come back (note: I remain logged in)

Bill

[Billyblue]

Hi Bill,

Have you made any changes to the Samba/SMB configuration on OpenATV?

The default for OpenATV is: min protocol = SMB2_02

Here is some documentation on Samba configuration: Samba smb.conf documentation

I suggest you try the

	server min protocol = NT1
	client min protocol = NT1

settings and see what happens.

Regards,
Ian.

Thanks Ian.

No, no changes done by me. Can't see where to change those setting through the GUI. If it needs to be done via telnet then that's above my pay grade!

Adding to my problems, all 3 test recordings have failed. Looks like it's trying to record to the flash, but there may be a prob with the HDD - can't run the check as it says it can't unmount the drive.

Bill

Update: Did a check for update and 11 packages found. Problems with check and recordings appear fixed, however can't see the T2 from Windows ATM...

[IanSav]

Hi Bill,

At the moment command line access is required to adjust the Samba engine. I have raised these issues with the team members who look after this area of the code. This is an area of the code that needs to be improved.

I will post back here when I have some more information or advice to provide.

Regards,
Ian.

[Billyblue]

Thanks Ian,
As far as I've been able to test, things are now working as you (as opposed to me!) might expect. The updates that I did yesterday morning have allowed me to somehow get a working T2 with OpenATV.

I've still got issues with things like the remote being overly sensitive (have found those settings, but still overly) and moving between sources - i.e. recordings on the T2 and my 2 NAS boxes - isn't as simple as on the orig BW firmware. Pity the Back button isn't used in place of the Exit button: maybe that's just the pendant in me. etc

Didn't need to get to the command line, but adding mount points seems a little hit and miss to me; somehow I fluked it!

Thanks for the advice, hope others who may follow can get something out of my posts.

Bill

[IanSav]

Hi Bill,

I'm glad you are getting things to work.

With regard to remote control sensitivity, I believe this could be an issue with the batteries getting weaker. If you have some spare newer batteries see if they make a difference.

There was talk about creating a new UI to manage Samba connections. I will probably be involved with that task but I think the underlying Samba code should be stabilised first.

Regards,
ian.