Unterschied zu GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K

[dvboxer]

Hi,

ich bin verwirrt. Warum gibt es hier kein Forum zu GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K ohne Pro? Oder bin ich blind? Auch ein Image finde ich nicht. Auf digital-sat-online.de gibt es beide Modelle, also mit und ohne Pro. Oder werden die ohne Pro hier unter Quad 4k (ohne UHD) geführt? (Verstehen tue ich sowieso nicht, warum sowohl UHD also auch 4K im Namen sind, ist das nicht dasselbe?) Ich bin immer noch auf der Suche nach einem guten Receiver mit DVB-S2 Twin Tuner, einem DVB-T2 Twin Tuner, voller AC3, AC3+ und AAC-HE Unterstützung (ohne Downmix!), der nicht unter dem Untertitelproblem wie die UHD Trio 4K Pro leidet. Ist die GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K mit oder ohne Pro ein solcher?

[Apachi70]

Hi,

ich bin verwirrt. Warum gibt es hier kein Forum zu GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K ohne Pro? Oder bin ich blind? Auch ein Image finde ich nicht. Auf digital-sat-online.de gibt es beide Modelle, also mit und ohne Pro. Oder werden die ohne Pro hier unter Quad 4k (ohne UHD) geführt? (Verstehen tue ich sowieso nicht, warum sowohl UHD also auch 4K im Namen sind, ist das nicht dasselbe?) Ich bin immer noch auf der Suche nach einem guten Receiver mit DVB-S2 Twin Tuner, einem DVB-T2 Twin Tuner, voller AC3, AC3+ und AAC-HE Unterstützung (ohne Downmix!), der nicht unter dem Untertitelproblem wie die UHD Trio 4K Pro leidet. Ist die GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K mit oder ohne Pro ein solcher?

hier ist es doch ? GB Quad 4K?
viewforum.php?f=405

un hier das image für GB Quad 4K:
https://images.mynonpublic.com/openatv/ ... n=gbquad4k

ansonsten kannst du auch in meiner Signatur einfach drauf klicken , so kommst du auch auf dem Link zu den images

[dvboxer]

hier ist es doch ? GB Quad 4K?
viewforum.php?f=405

Nun ja, da steht nichts von „UHD“, deswegen bin ich verwirrt. Dieses Forum hier hat das „UHD“ drin. Hier sind beide Varianten (eine mit Pro und eine ohne), also beide haben „UHD“ im Namen.

[urie]

hier ist es doch ? GB Quad 4K?
viewforum.php?f=405

Nun ja, da steht nichts von „UHD“, deswegen bin ich verwirrt. Dieses Forum hier hat das „UHD“ drin. Hier sind beide Varianten (eine mit Pro und eine ohne), also beide haben „UHD“ im Namen.

The fact it has 4k after in name tells you it is UHD where as the older Gigablue Quad is just HD,
but you are correct the section should be called GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K

[dvboxer]

Nun ja, da steht nichts von „UHD“, deswegen bin ich verwirrt. Dieses Forum hier hat das „UHD“ drin. Hier sind beide Varianten (eine mit Pro und eine ohne), also beide haben „UHD“ im Namen.

The fact it has 4k after in name tells you it is UHD where as the older Gigablue Quad is just HD,
but you are correct the section should be called GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K

Okay, what then is the difference between „GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K“ and „GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K Pro“? What should I buy? I bought the „UHD Trio 4K Pro“ a few months ago and was quite disappointed with respect to its (lack of) audio capabilities (not to mention the subtitle timing bug). So I am reluctant to buy another „Pro“ variant even though it is much more expensive than the Trio. On the other hand, I also want a DVB-T2 tuner. Could I use the one from the „UHD Trio 4k Pro“ in the „UHD Quad 4k Pro“? (I guess I read somewhere here that I can't use it in the UHD Quad 4k right?)

[urie]

Nun ja, da steht nichts von „UHD“, deswegen bin ich verwirrt. Dieses Forum hier hat das „UHD“ drin. Hier sind beide Varianten (eine mit Pro und eine ohne), also beide haben „UHD“ im Namen.

The fact it has 4k after in name tells you it is UHD where as the older Gigablue Quad is just HD,
but you are correct the section should be called GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K

Okay, what then is the difference between „GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K“ and „GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K Pro“? What should I buy? I bought the „UHD Trio 4K Pro“ a few months ago and was quite disappointed with respect to its (lack of) audio capabilities (not to mention the subtitle timing bug). So I am reluctant to buy another „Pro“ variant even though it is much more expensive than the Trio. On the other hand, I also want a DVB-T2 tuner. Could I use the one from the „UHD Trio 4k Pro“ in the „UHD Quad 4k Pro“? (I guess I read somewhere here that I can't use it in the UHD Quad 4k right?)

it's not hard to search for gigablue uhd trio 4k pro , but to answer one question no you cannot use tuners from gigablue uhd trio 4k pro as they are built in to the reciever
gigablue_uhd_quad_4k-pro
gigablue_uhd_quad_4k

[dvboxer]

it's not hard to search for gigablue uhd trio 4k pro , but to answer one question no you cannot use tuners from gigablue uhd trio 4k pro as they are built in to the reciever

Thanks, good to know!

gigablue_uhd_quad_4k-pro
gigablue_uhd_quad_4k

Thanks for those links but unfortunately, the don't tell me how AAC(-HE) or AC3+ audio streams are handled via hdmi. With the Trio Pro there is no way to pass AAC-HE through to my AV-Receiver (it is the only audio stream type used by the German ARD group over DVB-T). It is unconditionally downmixed to PCM and even worse to stereo only! That is simply not acceptable for me. My VU+ Ultimo4k on the other hand also converts AAC to PCM but at least it's possible to preserve all 5.1 channels. Then again the Ultimo4k has problems with AC3+. Whenever you switch from AC3 or AAC stations to a station with AC3+ you hear nothing. Only if the previous stream was PCM or already AC3+ there is a signal sent to the AV receiver. See this thread for details. So I want a box that works for all audio stream types by passing it through or at least downmix it to AC3 with all channels preserved. I am not sure that either uhd quad 4k or the uhd quad 4k pro fits the bill.

[urie]

it's not hard to search for gigablue uhd trio 4k pro , but to answer one question no you cannot use tuners from gigablue uhd trio 4k pro as they are built in to the reciever

Thanks, good to know!

gigablue_uhd_quad_4k-pro
gigablue_uhd_quad_4k

Thanks for those links but unfortunately, the don't tell me how AAC(-HE) or AC3+ audio streams are handled via hdmi. With the Trio Pro there is no way to pass AAC-HE through to my AV-Receiver (it is the only audio stream type used by the German ARD group over DVB-T). It is unconditionally downmixed to PCM and even worse to stereo only! That is simply not acceptable for me. My VU+ Ultimo4k on the other hand also converts AAC to PCM but at least it's possible to preserve all 5.1 channels. Then again the Ultimo4k has problems with AC3+. Whenever you switch from AC3 or AAC stations to a station with AC3+ you hear nothing. Only if the previous stream was PCM or already AC3+ there is a signal sent to the AV receiver. See this thread for details. So I want a box that works for all audio stream types by passing it through or at least downmix it to AC3 with all channels preserved. I am not sure that either uhd quad 4k or the uhd quad 4k pro fits the bill.

Here are images of my options for audio on one of my DVB-T channels if you want to tell me what option to change so you can see if possible.

[dvboxer]

Thanks for those links but unfortunately, the don't tell me how AAC(-HE) or AC3+ audio streams are handled via hdmi. With the Trio Pro there is no way to pass AAC-HE through to my AV-Receiver (it is the only audio stream type used by the German ARD group over DVB-T). It is unconditionally downmixed to PCM and even worse to stereo only! That is simply not acceptable for me. My VU+ Ultimo4k on the other hand also converts AAC to PCM but at least it's possible to preserve all 5.1 channels. Then again the Ultimo4k has problems with AC3+. Whenever you switch from AC3 or AAC stations to a station with AC3+ you hear nothing. Only if the previous stream was PCM or already AC3+ there is a signal sent to the AV receiver. See this thread for details. So I want a box that works for all audio stream types by passing it through or at least downmix it to AC3 with all channels preserved. I am not sure that either uhd quad 4k or the uhd quad 4k pro fits the bill.

Here are images of my options for audio on one of my DVB-T channels if you want to tell me what option to change so you can see if possible.

Great, thanks, but what Box is that? According to your signature it's UHD Quad 4k without Pro right? What I want to know is what other options are there for AAC downmix? Also, I'm a bit confused about the "AAC transcoding off", if AAC is downmixed it surely needs transcoding, no? What kind of signal gets to your AV receiver via hdmi (assuming your using one or maybe your TV if it tells you that) when you use the different AAC options? And do you happen to know if it is the same on the Pro? AC3+ isn't mentioned at all but then that is also not mentioned on the Trio Pro and it works.

[urie]

Thanks for those links but unfortunately, the don't tell me how AAC(-HE) or AC3+ audio streams are handled via hdmi. With the Trio Pro there is no way to pass AAC-HE through to my AV-Receiver (it is the only audio stream type used by the German ARD group over DVB-T). It is unconditionally downmixed to PCM and even worse to stereo only! That is simply not acceptable for me. My VU+ Ultimo4k on the other hand also converts AAC to PCM but at least it's possible to preserve all 5.1 channels. Then again the Ultimo4k has problems with AC3+. Whenever you switch from AC3 or AAC stations to a station with AC3+ you hear nothing. Only if the previous stream was PCM or already AC3+ there is a signal sent to the AV receiver. See this thread for details. So I want a box that works for all audio stream types by passing it through or at least downmix it to AC3 with all channels preserved. I am not sure that either uhd quad 4k or the uhd quad 4k pro fits the bill.

Here are images of my options for audio on one of my DVB-T channels if you want to tell me what option to change so you can see if possible.

Great, thanks, but what Box is that? According to your signature it's UHD Quad 4k without Pro right? What I want to know is what other options are there for AAC downmix? Also, I'm a bit confused about the "AAC transcoding off", if AAC is downmixed it surely needs transcoding, no? What kind of signal gets to your AV receiver via hdmi (assuming your using one or maybe your TV if it tells you that) when you use the different AAC options? And do you happen to know if it is the same on the Pro? AC3+ isn't mentioned at all but then that is also not mentioned on the Trio Pro and it works.

AAC Downmix options are:

Pass-through
Convert to multi-channel PCM
Convert to AC3
Convert to DTS
Use best / Controled by HDMI

AAC plus Downmix options are the same as above

Here is images of main audio settings page

Also I am in the UK don't know if tv DVB-T here is different.

[dvboxer]

Thank you very much. Now it would be great what those options are on the Pro.

Kann jemand mit der Pro mal die Audio-Optionen posten? Danke!

[urie]

Thank you very much. Now it would be great what those options are on the Pro.

Kann jemand mit der Pro mal die Audio-Optionen posten? Danke!

That is the audio options from the pro I just recieded the reciever the other day My GigaBlue UHD Quad 4K is not connected up any more.

[dvboxer]

Great, then the Pro it is!