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    Hi.
    I replaced and translated the text , which you changed in line 151



    It looks like this but it doesn't translate it into Polish.

    Any ideas why?
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    Zitat Zitat von Snoete Beitrag anzeigen
    So weit ich das beurteilen kann hat es geklappt : Update nl.po by Snoete * Pull Request #1668 * openatv/enigma2 * GitHub
    Danke noch mal für den Tipp!
    @Snoete, I just saw you changed "Afsluiten" to Stand-by / herstart.
    I understand that it might be more in line with the Source code English translation, but there is more at play here.
    The thing is that those translations go way back to the Enigma1 day's. So users are "used" to those (old) names.
    So in summery, is this "improvement" worth dropping the traditional name? I personally think not, as it doesn't really clarify anything more that the old "Afsluiten" did. (as the sub-menu gives you all the options)
    I struggled with the same issues when i originally made those translations, and at that time decided to keep the traditional namings.

    Its basically the same story for "Applicaties", strictly that should be "Plugins" but it has always been called Applicaties.

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    @Neoatomic, I can understand your concern but if the fact that a translation is very old is the main reason for not changing it, you can change practically nothing.
    The last few months I have read almost every single line and there where many grammatical flaws and inconsistent translations in there.
    I guess this happens if several people, like you and me, are trying to do their best over the last decade.

    Personally I like a Translation that's close to the original but is also modern and consistent overall.
    Besides "Applicaties" and Plug-ins are also mixed up with "Extensies", on one page it was called "Afsluiten" on the other "Deep Stand-by" and so on.

    Don't get me wrong, If you Prefer "Afsluiten" even if it is "for Old times' sake", I will gladly change it back.
    And after that we can debate over other translations too, but in my opinion the goal should be to move forward and try to keep it modern.
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    @Snoete, I would personally like to stick with "Afsluiten" and "Applicaties" for the main menu items naming. (i'm a traditionalist)
    But only because they are main menu items and long term namings. But i leave the final call to you.
    Just felt that i needed to point out the reasons behind that.

    Btw, you are doing a very good job with the translations. So i feel no need to debate the other translations, its just those few main menu namings that i urge caution with if you want to make changes. And mainly because the namings go back a long time.

    The file indeed needed a good cleanup and consistency check so glad you are investing the time for the community.
    From what i recall some of the problematic fields where, indeed plugins/applicaties/extention etc. One was bouquetes/favorieten/favorietenlijsten etc. Also the namings of the items under the help button. Just be aware that the Source code namings might not be correct as well.
    But you will come across those in time if you check the translations on your live STB.

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    I would personally like to stick with "Afsluiten" and "Applicaties" for the main menu items naming. (i'm a traditionalist)
    But only because they are main menu items and long term namings. But i leave the final call to you.
    Just felt that i needed to point out the reasons behind that.
    Just to be Clear: (and i'm a Modernist ;-) )
    The Submenu has only one real option for turning off your receiver.

    In English it's:
    Translating menus-english.png

    In Deutsch it's:
    Translating menus-deutsch.png

    That's why Stand-by / Herstart seems more logic to me.
    I understand that there are a lot of people who are used to it, so i will change it back to 'Afsluiten'.


    From what i recall some of the problematic fields where, indeed plugins/applicaties/extention etc.
    One was bouquetes/favorieten/favorietenlijsten etc.
    Also the namings of the items under the help button.
    Just be aware that the Source code namings might not be correct as well.
    But you will come across those in time if you check the translations on your live STB.
    That's exactly what i have seen. Most of them got sorted and a couple i had to change back...
    'Applicaties' in the main menu wil stay the same because after opening the 'Applicaties' menu it has the same title at the top of the screen.
    The "Extensies" menu is the Plugins-menu you open with Blue-long, looks like it's an old menu to me that (almost) no one uses, accept for opening PIP.
    If you see a 'Plugins' in the Dutch translation it's clear that somebody forgot to translate it to 'Applicaties'. (And it's a Plug-in in Dutch, not a Plugin).


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    Zitat Zitat von Snoete Beitrag anzeigen
    That's exactly what i have seen. Most of them got sorted and a couple i had to change back...
    'Applicaties' in the main menu wil stay the same because after opening the 'Applicaties' menu it has the same title at the top of the screen.
    The "Extensies" menu is the Plugins-menu you open with Blue-long, looks like it's an old menu to me that (almost) no one uses, accept for opening PIP.
    If you see a 'Plugins' in the Dutch translation it's clear that somebody forgot to translate it to 'Applicaties'. (And it's a Plug-in in Dutch, not a Plugin).
    You are just scratching the surface of Pandora's box.
    It gets even more fun when you have a word that is used on multiple places in the Source, but actually means different things in the context its used in.
    Some dev's who actually realized this problem used a dirty way to hack around that by using a small or capital character for that word, so you can differentiate between them and make an separate translation.
    Another one did it by adding a dot (or no dot) at the end of the line. So if you find the urge to add or remove dot's or change capital characters than keep that in mind.

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    I know that some line's show up at multiple places like the "Timer soort" in the "Opname instellingen" and in the "Timer menu".
    Because of this complexity, i guess that those double meanings and dots or no dots will stay in there because no Dev will take it on himself to change the Source-code for that.

    @Snoete, I would personally like to stick with "Afsluiten" and "Applicaties" for the main menu items naming.
    Done:
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