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08.01.2023, 16:45 #11
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Danke - 1 ThanksDoctor Who bedankten sich
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08.01.2023, 16:50 #12
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Box 1:zgemma H7SBox 2:zgemma H7SBox 5:EDISION MULTI-FINDER DVB
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08.01.2023, 16:51 #13
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Danke - 1 Thanksleo123 bedankten sich
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08.01.2023, 17:28 #14
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Box 1:zgemma H7SBox 2:zgemma H7SBox 5:EDISION MULTI-FINDER DVBDas es nicht geht, wissen wir. Nun fehlt nur noch die Lösung.
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08.01.2023, 19:50 #15
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ThemenstarterSee my previous post where i attached a screenshot from yesterday. That proves that the transporter works 100%. The screenshot has been taken on the GTMedia device. other prove eutelsat-promo-tv-crazyscan-transedit — ImgBB DVB Sat Card screenshot. This is not OpenATV issue but we are unable to receive this signal on zgemma,octagon even Vu receivers with their own software and other enigma2 boxes. I repeat my question... why cheap devices such as Gtmedia or even a TV such as LG is able to receive that kind of signal without any issues but more expensive and advanced receivers don't???? Who knows the answer?
one more question..
What about roll-off? That broadcast use 0.05 we cant set it lower than 0.20 maybe that's the problem?
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That's not a stupid question if you consider the situation when for example in the near future television broadcaster will decide to switch to DVB s2x standard with a weird setting, normal users will be not able to receive the signal and be forced to buy new hardware. Our actual hardware will be useless even if we've got s2x support.
You mentioned about another DVB s2x transponder probably on Astra 19e a few years ago. That transponder had default settings such as fez 1/2, sr rate 25500(find on youtube) that's why there was no problem with it until now when Eutelsat decided to use more than default settings. That's situations show DVB S2X on Enigma 2 receivers IS NOT FULLY SUPPORTED.Geändert von setka (08.01.2023 um 20:23 Uhr)
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08.01.2023, 20:33 #16
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No as said nowadays tuners are autodetecting the signal, they don't need modulation, FEC, inversion, roll-off etc.
They do find transponders even if you just tell them frequency and polarization and a symbolrate (even this isn't mandatory).
And no I'm not talking about some tests years ago, there are transponders regularly for feeding using DVB-S2X even with uncommon FEC values, which are found on blindscan.
And there are no standard FECs as said nowadays demodulators from Broadcom or Silabs don't need these parameters. They are always blindscanning while tuning.
I don't know what's different on this transponder and I had no time to check it now. The only thing I can tell it's not even seen on blindscan.
But it's definitely no issue related to Enigma2.
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08.01.2023, 21:22 #17
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Box 1:Mutant HD51Box 2:Dreambox 900 UHD / 702HD / 800HDse / 500HDBox 3:TBS 5925 / 5520se / 5220Box 4:Nokia9600SBox 5:Ineos ZX4It's a hardware problem that more tuners Short Frame doesn't support
I don't know if anyone can solve this problem because it digs deep into the drivers
In addition, new tuners mostly work in the mode AUTO and it doesn't matter what FEC and MODULATION is entered
M88RS6060 no problem
Si2166 It even has problem with long frame on DVB-S2X/ACM-VCM (AVL6261 works much better with this signal)
Geändert von EnoSat (08.01.2023 um 22:58 Uhr)
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08.01.2023, 22:23 #18
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@EnoSat der Si2166, Si2169 und auch die Broadcom Demodulatoren sind nur Consumer Chipsets (also als Hardwareproblem würde ich das nicht bezeichnen, es muss damit gar nicht funktionieren).
Daher fragte ich ja vorhin ob an dem Transponder etwas nicht normal ist, denn diese Chips unterstützen nicht alle Modis das können nur deutlich teurere die für den Profibereich gedacht sind.
ACM/VCM/short frame etc. werden nur teils bzw. gar nicht unterstützt, auch alles >32APSK nicht.
Scheinbar will Eutelsat gar nicht dass den TP jeder empfangen kann sonst hätte man nicht solche Parameter gewählt.Geändert von dhwz (08.01.2023 um 22:29 Uhr)
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08.01.2023, 22:57 #19
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08.01.2023, 23:07 #20
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Box 1:Mutant HD51Box 2:Dreambox 900 UHD / 702HD / 800HDse / 500HDBox 3:TBS 5925 / 5520se / 5220Box 4:Nokia9600SBox 5:Ineos ZX4Geändert von EnoSat (08.01.2023 um 23:29 Uhr)
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