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    Box 1:
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    I am getting a crash. Menu - Setup - Usage & GUI - Display Settings. Log attached. Is this the right place to post?
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    Box 1:
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    The samba crash in post #99 no longer occurs with the latest update. :-)

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    Hi, I am looking to upgrade my Beyonwiz T4 running Beyonwiz 19.3 firmware to OpenATV. Before I do this would like to know

    1. Is there anything I should do prior to the upgrade. I was planning to do a settings backup (I realise I won't be able to restore that to OpenATV but just in case)
    1a. With the installation is it just the same as updating the current Beyonwiz firmware (put firmware on USB and power off set top box, insert usb and power on and then press up arrow to update)
    1b. If once I install it if I am not a fan can I easily go back to Beyonwiz 19.3 firmware in the same way as a normal firmware update
    2. Are current recordings or content on hdd affected? Do I need to do anything to protect hdd content (ie. remove hdd during firmware upgrade). BeyonWiz HDD is formatted as EXT4 with recordings and video files stored in /movie
    3. Do all 4 tuners in beyonwiz T4 continue to function as before (ie. can record from say 3 separate transponders and watch another
    4. Does it support Autotimers plugin. If so can I transfer across my existing autotimers file from the backup I make above
    5. Does it support EPGRefresh plugin. This plugin "visits" all transport streams in the background to download EPG data
    6. Does it support IMDB plugin (that currently works)
    7. Does this support Favourites Bouquet and then on each boot up it utilises this bouquet (or whichever the last active bouquet was).
    8. Programmable skip buttons. Currently I have arrow keys programmed to skip backwards 1 minute, backwards 10 seconds, forward 1 minute, forward 3 minutes. From what I understand there is skip on the number buttons and can use the left and right arrows only. Can these be programmed to user defined time periods (ie. Left Skips back 15 seconds and right skips forward 3 minutes). If not directly possible is there a plugin available to do this
    9. Is there a detailed user guide (in English) that is available to download

    Apologies for all the queries but just want to be sure about making this change.

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    Ok So I went ahead and installed it thinking would give it a try after doing a whole bunch of image searches which for the most part made me confident enough to have a go. It has for the most part gone well, I have done my channel scans, set up my favourites, setup autotimers (although couldn't import through openwebif but replacing the xml file from my backup worked, epgrefresh is working though had issues with some channels not originally populating properly.

    As far as using the arrow buttons for skip I managed to track down a program called SpecialJump which appears to be working for Skip backwards 15 seconds on left arrow and skip forward 3 minutes on right arrow with how I have configured it so far. Still to try implement up and down arrows for other times but this works enough for me to know I should be able to solve however having it built into the options of enigma2 like the number button skips would be a neater and likely more robust solution as this option seemed flakely when it started but think it is now ok. Only time will tell.

    Also had issues setting up Samba Shares as OpenATV is more secure the Beyonwiz image however with modifying the samba configs directly and then having to restart from command line as the GUI wouldn't work it is now functioning fine with my other networked devices which access it (hopefully that continues).

    I still haven't managed to track down a user manual in english for OpenATV so if someone can point me to one that would be awesome.

    Many advantages to it for the moment and a few drawbacks but hoping as I tweak / get through the huge selection of setup options that i will end up with a far superior option then before and hopefully sort out the drawbacks

    One key thing I would like to find out also is when I look at my recordings list ("Enhanced Movie Centre") it often seems to default back to the top of the list. Is there a way to get it to default to the last selected file (sometimes it does this and other times it doesn't? Also have a similar issue with the default channel defaulting back to 1 on some occasions when I turn the box on (again sporadic).

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    ReceiverDanke
    Hi Naigy,

    Sorry for the delay in responding.

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    Hi, I am looking to upgrade my Beyonwiz T4 running Beyonwiz 19.3 firmware to OpenATV. Before I do this would like to know
    Welcome!

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    1. Is there anything I should do prior to the upgrade. I was planning to do a settings backup (I realise I won't be able to restore that to OpenATV but just in case)
    openATV is a very different build so there will be little of use coming from a very old Beyonwiz image.

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    1a. With the installation is it just the same as updating the current Beyonwiz firmware (put firmware on USB and power off set top box, insert usb and power on and then press up arrow to update)
    Yes. The only way to move over is to do a full flash to openATV.

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    1b. If once I install it if I am not a fan can I easily go back to Beyonwiz 19.3 firmware in the same way as a normal firmware update
    Correct, you can go back to the Beyonwiz image at any time.

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    2. Are current recordings or content on hdd affected? Do I need to do anything to protect hdd content (ie. remove hdd during firmware upgrade). BeyonWiz HDD is formatted as EXT4 with recordings and video files stored in /movie
    Nothing on the hard disk should be affected by the conversion. There will be some new folders added to the hard disk but no recordings should be affected.

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    3. Do all 4 tuners in beyonwiz T4 continue to function as before (ie. can record from say 3 separate transponders and watch another
    You should lose nothing and gain more and new functionality. One of my Australian testers of openATV is running on Beyonwiz T4 hardware.

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    4. Does it support Autotimers plugin. If so can I transfer across my existing autotimers file from the backup I make above
    Absolutely. While I can't be sure how old the Beyonwiz AutioTimer code is compared to the openATV version but I suspect that if you restore your AutoTimers XML file all your AutoTimers should be restored.

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    5. Does it support EPGRefresh plugin. This plugin "visits" all transport streams in the background to download EPG data
    Yes. Most of the old Beyonwiz plugins are still available on openATV as are many more plugins though many have limited, if any, value to Australian users.

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    6. Does it support IMDB plugin (that currently works)
    Yes. If I remember correctly, the changes made to the IMDb plugin by the Australian developer are also available on the openATV build. (Similarly PRL's picon updates are also available on openATV.)

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    7. Does this support Favourites Bouquet and then on each boot up it utilises this bouquet (or whichever the last active bouquet was).
    The Beyonwiz firmware was a derivative of the Enigma2 project. Most of the Beyonwiz functionality is derived from the same sources as openATV. What you may note is that the openATV versions of the code are newer and potentially enhance over the experiences you noted on the Beyonwiz firmware.

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    8. Programmable skip buttons. Currently I have arrow keys programmed to skip backwards 1 minute, backwards 10 seconds, forward 1 minute, forward 3 minutes. From what I understand there is skip on the number buttons and can use the left and right arrows only. Can these be programmed to user defined time periods (ie. Left Skips back 15 seconds and right skips forward 3 minutes). If not directly possible is there a plugin available to do this
    The ARROW button based skips are NOT available on openATV. As you noted, the number button skips are available with one significant limitation. The 1, 4 and 7 buttons only skip backwards and the 3, 6 and 9 buttons only skip forwards.

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    9. Is there a detailed user guide (in English) that is available to download
    No. The firmware is under constant development and improvement. This outpaces any documentation that may exist. That said, I have taken PRL's help developments for the Beyonwiz firmware and we are deploying it all over openATV. Try pressing HELP whenever you need assistance.

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    Apologies for all the queries but just want to be sure about making this change.
    Not a problem. This forum area is specifically for this sort of question.

    Regards,
    Ian.

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    Hi Naigy,

    Sorry my delay caused you reservations about the jump to openATV.

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    Ok So I went ahead and installed it thinking would give it a try after doing a whole bunch of image searches which for the most part made me confident enough to have a go. It has for the most part gone well, I have done my channel scans, set up my favourites, setup autotimers (although couldn't import through openwebif but replacing the xml file from my backup worked, epgrefresh is working though had issues with some channels not originally populating properly.

    As far as using the arrow buttons for skip I managed to track down a program called SpecialJump which appears to be working for Skip backwards 15 seconds on left arrow and skip forward 3 minutes on right arrow with how I have configured it so far. Still to try implement up and down arrows for other times but this works enough for me to know I should be able to solve however having it built into the options of enigma2 like the number button skips would be a neater and likely more robust solution as this option seemed flakely when it started but think it is now ok. Only time will tell.
    I have not forgotten the ARROW button skips from the Beyonwiz firmware. This feature may make an appearance in openATV, as an optional configuration, some time down the track. It is not very high in the active task and wish lists.

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    Also had issues setting up Samba Shares as OpenATV is more secure the Beyonwiz image however with modifying the samba configs directly and then having to restart from command line as the GUI wouldn't work it is now functioning fine with my other networked devices which access it (hopefully that continues).
    There is an active to-do item that is about to become an active task to expose more of the samba configuration items into the UI.

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    I still haven't managed to track down a user manual in english for OpenATV so if someone can point me to one that would be awesome.
    The majority of openATV users are not English speakers so English documentation is very light. openATV developers have now standardised in writing ALL code and coder documentation in US English so you may find some assistance in looking at the source code repository. There is some documentation if the /doc directory. enigma2/doc at master . openatv/enigma2 . GitHub.

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    Many advantages to it for the moment and a few drawbacks but hoping as I tweak / get through the huge selection of setup options that i will end up with a far superior option then before and hopefully sort out the drawbacks
    If you prefer, the OverlayHD skin from Beyonwiz is now specifically modified to support openATV. This may make your transition a little easier.

    If there are any aspects of openATV that you feel are not working for you as an Australian user then feel free to open an issue in the openATV repository Issues . openatv/enigma2 . GitHub. We can't promise to do anything but all comments will be reviewed.

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    One key thing I would like to find out also is when I look at my recordings list ("Enhanced Movie Centre") it often seems to default back to the top of the list. Is there a way to get it to default to the last selected file (sometimes it does this and other times it doesn't? Also have a similar issue with the default channel defaulting back to 1 on some occasions when I turn the box on (again sporadic).
    Personally, I prefer to use "Media Selection" rather than EMC. This is far more like the old Beyonwiz experience. You can make this change by going into the EMC settings and disabling EMC.

    I hope this helps.

    Regards,
    Ian.

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    Thanks for the informative replies Ian and the links provided. Much appreciated.

    Changing that option in EMC makes it so much better (well more what I am used to I guess) but yeah simpler and less stimulating.

    Have fiddled more with the arrow based skips and have actually found an option that is working well though as I have hacked setting files I guess it will be prone to break in the future as I do upgrades etc. What I have done is actually stop using the SpecialJump addon and have instead edited the usr/share/enigma2/keymap.xml file directly and added / replaced references to arrow keys to both the <map context="InfobarSeekActions"> and <map context="InfobarSeekActionsPTS"> sections as follows

    Code:
    		<key id="KEY_UP" mapto="seekdef:6" flags="m" />
    		<key id="KEY_DOWN" mapto="seekdef:4" flags="m" />
    		<key id="KEY_LEFT" mapto="seekdef:1" flags="b" />
    		<key id="KEY_RIGHT" mapto="seekdef:9" flags="b" />
    and then edit the settings in menu -> Playback, Recording & Time Shift -> Playback Settings and adjust skip times as follows for my purpose

    Code:
    1/3 Skip = 15 Seconds
    4/6 Skip = 60 Seconds
    7/9 Skip = 180 Seconds
    As a result of the above I now have

    Right Arrow = Skip Forward 3 Minutes
    Left Arrow = Skip Back 15 Seconds
    Up Arrow = Skip Forward 1 Minute
    Down Arrow = Skip Backwards 1 Minute

    Only downside to this solution I have found so far is it doesn't work for timeshift (rarely in timeshift anyway) and the fact that I would see it likely to fail when upgrades are made but even if it does it is relatively quick to edit and redo.

    Note: I realise the flags above are likely incorrect and should all be the same but haven't looked into the use case for each and like I said it works so for the moment I will leave it

    Certainly a learning curve but confident so far this has been the right decision and given the uncertainty of Beyonwiz future / forum future even more so.

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    Hi Naigy,

    This is the meaning of the flags in the keymap file (this is also at the top of the file):
    Code:
    <!--
    	Flag meanings in <key /> elements:
    	"m": Action active on key "Make".
    	"b": Action active on key "Break".
    	"r": Action active on key repeats.
    	"l": Action on long key press.
    -->
    I haven't looked at the implications of your changes so there may be hidden dangers. Please note that pressing the ARROW buttons on the Beyonwiz switched to timeshift mode, where appropriate, and then did the jump. This will not happen on openATV.

    You can save these changes to keymap.xml by creating a subset of the keymap file that only contains the section you changed and putting the file into /etc/enigma2. This file will NOT be overwritten during an upgrade and any data in this file will replace the data in the system version of the file.

    Unfortunately, I suspect that the Beyonwiz forum and website is now gone for good. I think the DNS has now expired and may now up for grabs / ransom by cyber-squatters.

    Regards,
    Ian.


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