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    Hello.


    Do I understand it correctly ? You have up to 4 pieces of these 4-port (A, B, C, D) DiseqC switches ? You only have 2x DVB-S tuner as you already wrote. I do not really understand how you got everything connected together. Can you also draw a diagram to better understand your entire engagement ? You could also choose your setting in one of the configurations on the following site (there are multiple ways to join) and send a link to the forum. For example: SatLex Digital :: Technology :: Configurations :: 1 Participant . You can also find other details about the DiseqC configuration on this site. Even on this site you can switch your native language (at the top of the website, a bit on the right).

    As you write, you use 4 pieces of these 4-port DiseqC switches - that's 16x coaxial cables on 4-piece Quad-LNB converters. I really do not understand sorry.

    Are you using an advanced or simple tuner configuration in OpenATV ? In the advanced configuration, you can set up each LNB separately and in more detail (polarization, tone/pulse control, increased power supply, diseqc mode, unicable, etc.). Or did you already try to set it all up ?

    In a simple configuration, tried you to change the tuner configuration even to "send DiseqC only when changing the satellite" ?

    What is your skill in satellite technology ? I'm just asking to be sure you have the DiseqC switch configured correctly. Alternatively, try to look into the detailing configuration of your VU Solo 4k, on which the DiseqC switch even works when it wakes up from standby mode (which is basically a problem with the OpenATV image). Check that the tuner configuration in OpenATV is really correct.

    Unfortunately, I can not help in this, because as I have already written, I am not an expert on satellite tuners or on DiseqC switches (in terms of their electrical functionality).

    There is no detailed info on the DiseqC switch in its manual ?

    So far, I have only to agree with you, though the problem is the incompatibility with the DiseqC switch - so the OpenATV tuner is incorrectly configured or maybe OpenATV contains some BUG.

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    Hello.


    Do I understand it correctly ? You have up to 4 pieces of these 4-port (A, B, C, D) DiseqC switches ? You only have 2x DVB-S tuner as you already wrote. I do not really understand how you got everything connected together. Can you also draw a diagram to better understand your entire engagement ? You could also choose your setting in one of the configurations on the following site (there are multiple ways to join) and send a link to the forum. For example: SatLex Digital :: Technology :: Configurations :: 1 Participant . You can also find other details about the DiseqC configuration on this site. Even on this site you can switch your native language (at the top of the website, a bit on the right).

    As you write, you use 4 pieces of these 4-port DiseqC switches - that's 16x coaxial cables on 4-piece Quad-LNB converters. I really do not understand sorry.

    Are you using an advanced or simple tuner configuration in OpenATV ? In the advanced configuration, you can set up each LNB separately and in more detail (polarization, tone/pulse control, increased power supply, diseqc mode, unicable, etc.). Or did you already try to set it all up ?

    In a simple configuration, tried you to change the tuner configuration even to "send DiseqC only when changing the satellite" ?

    What is your skill in satellite technology ? I'm just asking to be sure you have the DiseqC switch configured correctly. Alternatively, try to look into the detailing configuration of your VU Solo 4k, on which the DiseqC switch even works when it wakes up from standby mode (which is basically a problem with the OpenATV image). Check that the tuner configuration in OpenATV is really correct.

    Unfortunately, I can not help in this, because as I have already written, I am not an expert on satellite tuners or on DiseqC switches (in terms of their electrical functionality).

    There is no detailed info on the DiseqC switch in its manual ?

    So far, I have only to agree with you, though the problem is the incompatibility with the DiseqC switch - so the OpenATV tuner is incorrectly configured or maybe OpenATV contains some BUG.
    Hi, why I need 4 pcs 4-1 Diseqc switches is because my Quad LNB has 4 outputs and is set for 4 diferent satellites. My 2 recipients each have 2 inputs because they have dual tuners for DVB-S2 and DVB-C/T2. Yes, there will be many cables from Quad LNB and if you count 16 pcs. I am using advanced Diseqc 1.0 settings and have also used different settings but the same result. The idea is to be able to record on several different channels while watching another channel and transponder. For my situation is to use 4 Diseqc 4-1 switches are the only option, or to connect an electronic 16-4 multiswitch type EPG or Spaun. This combination I have now also worked with VU Solo 4k and earlier on Tiviar with original image (not Enigma2). Why now this does not work is a mystery but I think it is due to Tiviar and its poor power supply can not delivery enough power in the combination that Spaun switches consume a lot of power and can not be bothered to switch 13/18V and 22 kHz for the different polarization. Had I chosen 4 pcs single LNB with 1 output together with 4 pc Diseqc 4-1 I think all works and that's the way most people have it connected. The answer on my problems is maybe to use a electronic 16-4 multiswitch. This is my believe but I am not shure of course until I test this. I wonder if OpenATV devoloper have tested their image with my combination of 4 pcs of Quad LNB connected to 4 pcs Diseqc 4-1 and 2 Tiviar receivers with twin tuners?.
    Geändert von perahl (31.01.2018 um 09:49 Uhr)

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    Are you using an advanced or simple tuner configuration in OpenATV ? In the advanced configuration, you can set up each LNB separately and in more detail (polarization, tone/pulse control, increased power supply, diseqc mode, unicable, etc.). Or did you already try to set it all up ?
    You say he tried almost everything. You say there is probably a problem of weak power. Did you also try to change the setting to increase the electrical voltage ? I do not know exactly how this item is called in the English OpenATV MENU for tuner-configuration, so sorry.

    BTW: (not related to your problem)
    I use the LNB coupled converter for two 19.2 + 23.5 satellites in one DiseqC built-in enclosure. Called as the monoblock single, for a 4.3 degree deviation - something like this, but with a different distance from each SatLex Digital :: Technology :: LNB Types Everything works smoothly.

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    You say he tried almost everything. You say there is probably a problem of weak power. Did you also try to change the setting to increase the electrical voltage ? I do not know exactly how this item is called in the English OpenATV MENU for tuner-configuration, so sorry.

    BTW: (not related to your problem)
    I use the LNB coupled converter for two 19.2 + 23.5 satellites in one DiseqC built-in enclosure. Called as the monoblock single, for a 4.3 degree deviation - something like this, but with a different distance from each SatLex Digital :: Technology :: LNB Types Everything works smoothly.
    If I change the setting to increase the power=yes

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    Hi, I have now tested to connect my Tiviar Alpfa Plus directly without Spaun Diseqc switches to my Quad LNB and everything works now perfect. This means that Spaun SAR 411 4/1 Diseqc switches does not works with Tiviar Alpfa Plus but with VU Solo 4K. So then I wonder which Diseqc 4/1 switch can solve my problem? Maybe EMP Diseqc 4/1 switch or what? I use 4 satellites and 4 pcs Quad LNB connected to 2 pcs of Tiviar Alpfa Plus. These boxes have two tuners each so I need 4 output from Diseqc switches for full recording capacity. Today I use 4 pcs of Spaun 4/1 Diseqc switches.

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    Yes, this is likely from the beginning. The problem is to find out why this is happening. Then report this solution to the whole world :) and especially to the satellite set top box manufacturer :).

    Maybe there is insufficient power supply. Maybe DiseqC does not work completely according to standards. From the point of view of electrical connection, the problem could be solved. For example, using a signal boost or frequency modulation and the like. You may use an inappropriate coaxial cable (it may be too short - it must have a minimum length, I think it is 1 meter). You may have a great signal loss on poor connectors. And so on...

    There are several DiseqC modes of operation - see the links I mentioned above.

    However, solving the problem would take quite a long time since we two are probably not experts in satellite technology, ha ha. Just understanding how DiseqC works and then gaining experience with DiseqC, at least I personally could take one whole day. Then follow measurements, tests, looking for the exact cause. DiseqC uses simple electronics. Nothing complicated. So it is theoretically measurable (volts, amperes, ohms, frequency). Each satellite service technician has these appropriate measuring devices.

    Sorry for flame :).

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