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Thema: VU+ Zero 4K blindscan
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12.01.2018, 02:48 #21
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More or less, Someone will have to buy the box and try it. I do think the HD51 is capable of APSK.
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12.01.2018, 03:15 #22
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ThemenstarterHello EB
Do you know if this receiver Vu+ Uno 4K SE, UHD PVR, has the same capabilities as the Zero as far as the APSK functions, this one has more options.
If it does I rather buy this one.
They claim it has the S2X TUNERS.
Regards.
Chewie
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12.01.2018, 04:27 #23
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Vu+ Uno 4K SE I think has FBC tuner. That is not what we want.
Try to wait a little bit and see what happens. The HD51 is being talked about kindly. Would be a good idea maybe to see what happens with it.
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12.01.2018, 06:53 #24
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@chewie
You don't need these options as the DVB-S2X tuners do auto search all parameters, that means you just select DVB-S2 and do scan the specific transponders. As DVB-S2X is not a new system itself but an extension of DVB-S2. Also LinuxAPI doesn't even know DVB-S2X which means selecting these options on Vu+ is only a cosmetic feature.
HD51, DM900, DM920, SF4008 etc. doesn't matter which box you choose because for all of these boxes are DVB-S2X tuners available.
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12.01.2018, 19:27 #25
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Box 1:Octagon SF8008 4KBox 2:Azbox MeBox 3:Azbox MiniMe
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12.01.2018, 22:07 #26
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Box 1:VU+ Duo 4K SE - DVB-S2X + DVB-T2Box 2:VU+ Uno 4K SE + Turbo TunerBox 3:VU+ Zero 4K + Turbo TunerUnicable II über Jultec JPS1704-4T --> 28,2° + 42° O
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13.04.2018, 06:39 #27
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DVB-S2X has a different set of fec parameters. Logging a DVB-S2X transponder will crash enigma2 unless the blindscan plugin is modified. My Vu+ Zero 4K is doing a great job in blindscan, but it is extremely slow as compared to closed source receivers. Here is a snippet of the Zero 4K blindscan log with 16APSK DVB-S2x transponder:
[Blind scan] cnt : 8 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10730549', '0', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 8 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10803097', '0', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 8 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10808471', '0', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 8 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10843992', '0', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 8 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10861162', '0', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 8 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10866078', '0', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 8 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10872697', '0', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10907300', '20001000', 'DVB-S2X', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_7_9', '16APSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 14 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '10977423', '34001000', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_2_3', '8PSK', 'ROLLOFF_35', '3', '1', '3', '2']
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '11012616', '18400000', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_2_3', '8PSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '11058622', '6150000', 'DVB-S', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_7_8', 'QPSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 10 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '11067666', '4710000', 'DVB-S', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'FEC_3_4', 'QPSK', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 8 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '11099255', '0', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 8 , data : ['OK', 'HORIZONTAL', '11139428', '0', 'DVB-S2', 'INVERSION_AUTO', 'PILOT_OFF', 'ROLLOFF_35']
[Blind scan] cnt : 0 , data : []
[Blind scan] data : [2728][1][4164798][4750000][1][2][0][2][2][2]
[Blind scan] data : [2728][1][4136486][29126000][1][2][0][4][2][2]
[Blind scan] data : [2728][1][4099786][34001000][1][2][0][0][4][4]
[Blind scan] data : [2728][1][4067673][34001000][1][2][0][4][4][4]
[Blind scan] data : [2728][0][3992700][20001000][1][2][0][0][4][4]
[Blind scan] data : [2728][0][3922577][34001000][1][2][0][2][2][2]
[Blind scan] data : [2728][0][3887384][18400000][1][2][0][2][2][2]
[Blind scan] data : [2728][0][3841378][6150000][0][2][0][5][1][1]
[Blind scan] data : [2728][0][3832334][4710000][0][2][0][3][1][1]
----------Finish_Time = Friday, 13 of April 2018, 00:12:28
Mutant HD51, Octagon SF4008? Where is the blindscan for these receivers?
It looks like DVB-S2X transponders are being used in North America. But the only way to find them is with blindscan. They are not listed in Lyngsat or any other website.
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13.04.2018, 07:59 #28
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Too bad that Vu+ something patched into the kernel what officially does not exist, the LinuxAPI knows no DVB-S2X and therefore also not all the new FEC parameters.
But that's botch and not a standard. If LinuxTV fixes something else in the future, then Vu+ may have incompatible channel lists, they should have just waited for LinuxTV to implement something officially in the kernel. Apparently, no one at Vu+ has a clue what they are doing and thought they would have to add something so they can use DVB-S2X, but thats nonsense because DVB-S2X runs without any changes with the current DVB-S2 code, as DVB-S2X is NOT a separate standard, but a supplement to DVB-S2.
Zu dumm, dass Vu+ irgendwas in den Kernel rein gepatcht hat was es offiziell gar nicht gibt, die LinuxAPI kennt kein DVB-S2X und somit auch nicht die ganzen FEC Parameter, schön dass das bei Vu+ jetzt funktioniert.
Aber das ist Pfusch und kein Standard. Legt LinuxTV jetzt etwas anderes zukünftig fest, dann hat Vu+ inkompatible Kanallisten, sie hätten einfach warten sollen bis LinuxTV etwas offiziell in den Kernel einbaut. Scheinbar hat aber keiner bei Vu+ eine Ahnung was sie da tun und dachten sie müssten das reinbasteln damit sie DVB-S2X nutzen können, was aber Unsinn ist denn DVB-S2X läuft ohne jegliche Änderungen mit dem aktuellen DVB-S2 Code, denn DVB-S2X ist KEIN eigener Standard, sonder eine Ergänzung zu DVB-S2.
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13.04.2018, 08:52 #29
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vu say a 16APSK was dvb-s2x , but the infos was wrong, and possible the blindscan plugin send wrong infos you dont know have the tp "'FEC_7_9" or get the blindscan tool only wrong data
have you compare the scan with other brand non e2 box get you the same infos ?
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13.04.2018, 18:02 #30
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I think the blindscan information from the Zero 4K is correct. I have logged 3 different DVB-S2X transponders at 87 West c band over a several week time. All 3 of these transponders have been 16 APSK, but have different DVB-S2X FEC's. My Edision OS Mini has not been able to find these DVB-S2X transponders or read a signal on them. My OS Mini is dual tuner, 16/32 APSK. Vu+ Zero 4K logs many other 16 APSK transponders on other satellites as DVB-S2. Some of these APSK transponders have channels and the Zero 4K plays them correctly.
Two DVB-S2X transponders for Europe are listed here:Code:http://en.satexpat.com/dvb-s2x/
I do not see Vu+ doing anything except adding what is needed to make DVB-S2X function correctly in their receiver as DVB-S2X. Similar additions were made to enigma2 for 16/32 APSK. There is just a lot more to add for DVB-S2X.
Here are the changes Vu+ made for DVB-S2X:
Code:http://code.vuplus.com/gitweb/?p=vuplus_dvbapp;a=commitdiff;h=faaf85f037e9d29dd9f5178016caf7c80776d55b
Would be nice to see Mutant HD51 or Octagon SF4008 add blindscan. We know the tuners support it, and I would have a different receiver to test DVB-S2X blindscan.
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